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Interview with DeepSeek Founder: We're Done Following. It's Time to Lead
Silicon Valley is reeling. However, founder Liang Wenfeng has remained low-key, with his most recent appearance being on China Central Television's Xinwen Lianbo (CCTV News).
In January 2025, DeepSeek-R1—an open-source inference model from Chinese AI firm DeepSeek—sent shockwaves through the tech world by matching OpenAI’s top-tier performance at 1/30th the API cost, all while embracing full openness. Translated from a July 2024 interview with DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng—conducted shortly after the company’s open-source V2 model catapulted it to fame—this rare dialogue unveils how a Chinese startup dared to leapfrog giants and redefine innovation’s rules. Discussing AI’s future profitability using the commercial logic of the internet era is like comparing Tencent’s early days to General Electric or Coca-Cola—it’s essentially carving a boat to mark a sword’s position, an outdated approach.
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