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Ryûsuke Hamaguchi wants you to watch his new movie at least twice


The director of Drive My Car talks about following a hit.

The rapturous reception and Oscar nomination for Drive My Car made Ryûsuke Hamaguchi an internationally recognized director. Still, Hamaguchi takes the smallest of small-town politics (a 20-minute scene is about the placement of a septic tank at a new glamping site) and spins together a conflict about family, community, and whether humans can actually live peacefully in nature. Speaking through a translator, Hamaguchi sat down with The Verge last October, just after the premiere of Evil Does Not Exist at the New York Film Festival, to talk about the movie’s reception, its surprising origins, and the meaning of its wild ending.

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