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What NPR’s new podcast chief learned from the mess at Gimlet


Collin Campbell says Spotify’s podcasting strategy was “folly through and through.”

On Friday, Insiders got part one of a Q&A with NPR’s new podcasting chief, Collin Campbell, who led new show development at Gimlet before the studio was dismantled by Spotify. Rund Abdelfatah and Ramtin Arablouei, creators and co-hosts of NPR’s Throughline, and Yochai Maital,senior producer and co-founder of Israel Story,will join me to discuss how podcasters are uniquely positioned to show the human side of war. Throughline, which turns five this February, won a Peabody Award for its 2021 miniseries on Afghanistan and has published episodes on conflict-related topics such as the rise of Hamas, the Tigray War in Ethiopia, and the power of collective memory.

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